Hero Banner

Microsoft Partner Network

Where Microsoft's CSP, MSP, SI, and ISV partners seek new opportunities and learn from each other

Reply
Level 2 Contributor

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

James - I am still slightly confused over whether;

 

- The customer needs to add you using an Azure AD role - and if so does it have to be a specific role?, or

- The customer can simply add your MPN ID to the subscription themselves and that will work?

 

It is not 100% clear, as always!

Microsoft

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

@lawtonma See: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/partner-center/azure-plan-manage

 

And specifically the guidance on roles at the end of the article: https://query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.com/cms/api/am/binary/RE3QuW2 - in short: Owner & Contributor

 

Partner Admin Link works on on account level, not a subscription/tenant level. Partner ID on subscrption level is "Partner of Record/DPOR wand will not work for PEC.

 

Microsoft

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

@GJ : Yes, setting PAL on a user account from the customer directory or guest account is a way to get PEC: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/partner-center/azure-plan-manage

When you use PIM, you wll not earn PEC when all of your accounts as a Partner are removed.

When a customer wants to use PIM, you need to keep at least one account to get PEC - You can then use other measures to secure this account. E.g by setting special conditional access rules for all global admins to restrict AOBO (Foreign Principal) which might be used by all Admin Agents on Partner side. Or removing this foreign principal alltogether and use a guest account or user account linked via PAL and restrict access for this account with Conditional Access. 

 

The general idea for CSP is that the CSP partner manages the environment, so the CSP Partner own the PIM process on behalf of the customer. If the customer insists on doing this himself, you need to use above mentioned workarounds to combine both needs.

Visitor 1

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

What do the reports look like and where can they be found on the customer side? Do they get email notifications each time a user links their partner id? 

Level 5 Contributor

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

The reports are partner side under cloud product performance. You have to set the partner assosciation type to Partner Admin Link.

 

I've not seen any notifications when adding the ID's to a subscription. 

 

Visitor 1

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

Hello, if the partner is CSP parter on record and is also doing work as a MS provider in Azure, are they required to set up PAL?

Level 5 Contributor

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

No if they are the CSP partner then they will be getting the credit for all of the subscription already and don't need PAL.

 

PAL is for when you're not the transacting partner, but want the credit for work you are doing in Azure for your customers.

Microsoft

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

@JASA1976 : One small clarification - when talking about the new Azure plan, PAL is actually one of the applicable options for the CSP Partner to earn the Partner Earned Credit (PEC) - e.g. when the customer reomves the default (AOBO) permission on the Azure subscription and thus PEC is no longer paid, transacting CSP Partner could use one user account linked via PAL to still earn PEC. So the usage scenarios of PAL have expanded a bit with respect to the new Azure Plan/New Azure Commerce Experience.

Level 1 Contributor

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

Hi @JanoschUlmer, hoping you can clarify a few things about this alternate association for PEC.

  1. If PAL is our connection to earn PEC, do we still earn the full 15% or is it the 6% associated with PAL?
  2. Also, if it's PAL for PEC, what if another partner associates with the customers via either AOBO and/or PAL? Is the PEC shared? Or do we keep the full 15% because they're in our CSP?
Highlighted
Microsoft

Re: Get recognized with Partner Admin Link

@tcalitz 

 - PEC is always 15% for any of the documented ways to earn it.  The 6% only applies to scenarios where PAL is used for incentives for non-CSP Azure subscriptions

 - PEC will be paid if the Partner that is owning the Azure plan (=Sold the Azure Plan) is the same as the Partner that is linked via PAL (MPN ID used for matches any MPN ID of the MPN vOrg of the Partner), respectively the selling CSP partner tenant is the same as the tenant mentioned in AOBO (the partner tenant mentioned in the "Foreign Principal" permission in the subscription).

Afaik, if another Partner is also added as AOBO (Which would be unusual) or via PAL, this will not impact PEC. In Partner Center (Sell --> Marketplace; direct link) you'll find examples on how the PEC is calculated when different partners are attached to one customer - they only issue I know arises when Partner A is the CSP reseller & linked via PAL, and Partner B has set Partner of Record (DPOR), see the mentioned document, example 2. 

 

Note: This information is based on my current knowledge, I'm not from the team that has designed the system. So if you see any discrepancies in your invoice to this, please contact support - and it would be great to update this thread.